Kim (00:01.604)
Hello, Amici. I'm really happy to have you here. How are you?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (00:05.49)
I'm doing well, how are you?
Kim (00:07.408)
Good, I'm really excited about this conversation because I know that, well, you and I both know we've been through erectocele surgery. We also know that there's not a lot of information out there and there are a lot of people who do seek help. And your story is really intriguing, I think, in terms of how you came to find me and go through your surgical procedure. So I'm...
Am.mee.chee Jensen (00:34.102)
Yes.
Kim (00:34.22)
really, really happy and really grateful that you are sharing your story and now becoming so vocal about pelvic health. It's another notch on your, I gotta preach to the world, right? Yeah. So what I'd love to do, yeah, is if you can start just by telling us your story, kind of how you got into finding me and deciding that you needed to have erectus sole surgery, what was sort of the, what's the journey that got you there?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (00:45.033)
Yes, yes. I've got no idea.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (01:00.426)
Yeah. So my name's Ami Chee. You have to say it with a smile. I'm 35. I'm married. And I've had three daughters. So pregnancy seems to be the caveat. Always, it seems. Often, excuse me, for this type of story. And so we plan on having six kids. Reality was three. And I learned that my body has its.
kind of more than like what's dreamed in my mind. So I kind of, wisdom started to direct things and to show me what was okay. And so with each pregnancy, they were very different, but my last one was the hardest. And I was 33 when I had her. And so I consider myself to be like a little Christ-like one. So like, I believe that faith kind of helps me through my restoration health journey.
And like, he kind of helps me link each piece and each person that's supposed to be kind of the caveat to help me get to the next. And so in my faith, I began to like pursue bitter herbs, detoxing food, colon, gut cleansing, and then like just balancing the body. I got into some alkalinity stuff too. And then what was left over was my vagina, like that I needed to attend to.
And I was like, wait, what are we doing with that? Like, I didn't even know I had to do anything. But the third pregnancy showed me that like, during that pregnancy, I had hyperemesis and obesity. And I hadn't done any of those two things in my first two. I was also younger, but I had made a decision like I was gonna have this baby, no matter what my body was kind of saying. And I'm learning you run into a lot of issues when you get into that mindset. And so I noticed that I was feeling symptoms that were very like.
vulnerable and like emotionally taxing down in the vagina area and my body was just not supporting itself like it always had. And so I began to pray and my journey kind of began from there and I learned and experienced like a lot of success by starting to ask questions and look for people who were good and aware of what they were doing for their body but also helping to support other people. And so...
Am.mee.chee Jensen (03:14.222)
kind of gaining this awareness, I started looking online. And while I was going to pelvic floor therapy for someone who could help me through this journey, once surgery was put on the table in a non-fair way, and I had done the due diligence with pelvic floor therapy. And once I did that, I found you. And then I was also told that not only was I getting a rectocell repair,
but I was going to be getting a cystosal repair, which I guess we didn't know was happening in the midst, and also a perineum repair. So I had all three fixings done, and you were a big part of that surgical confidence going into that next journey.
that I didn't expect. Like I had already prayed like, Lord, I don't want to have a pessary in my whole life. I'm 35. Like how long am I going to have this thing I have to maintain? I didn't know it meant I was going to get surgery for the pessary to be removed. So that's my story. Yeah.
Kim (04:17.492)
Yeah. That's so interesting. So I guess I want to go back and just touch on the detox piece actually, like what, what was it that led you to feeling like you needed to learn about detoxification in your body?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (04:21.675)
Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (04:31.118)
Oh, that's a good question. So I almost feel like I got pulled. This is part of my story all along, but God was like, okay, it's gonna start now. So I was married once before, kinda just did it my way, flung off the cuff, and that was just a bad idea, don't do that, and young. And I married someone who was an addict, and I didn't know what addict meant, but like,
I also malaried someone who wasn't just an addict, but very talented, but also dyslexic. So there was a lot of stuff there to kind of go, this can't just stay like this. This person should be allowed to be able to function better. And so I started looking what helps someone function. And for some reason, my brain didn't go towards pharmaceuticals. It went towards there's got to be something on the earth. And so that was kind of like half a chance. And I found clay.
And then the world of clay just opened up and there were, I was in the health food stores and I'm getting detox stuff and omega three. And basically my journey started with clay and omega three. And I was just pumping him full of things that wouldn't over-toxify his body, but would help his brain clear up so he could function at a better capacity than what he was given from childhood and as an adult. And
trying to get him in a place where he didn't feel like he was dependent on sneaking these addictive drugs and stuff. And I just, I had not come from a world where people leaned like that. I heard about it. I read books about it. You're told in school not to do drugs, but I got to see someone fully immersed in the stuck and I wanted to help. And so my journey started from like a very close relationship that needed something. And I thought maybe natural things could do it.
And then that relationship dissolved, that part of me never left and it just ballooned. And so the next big caveat I would say is I ended up having my firstborn with my husband that I'm with now and this was very much intentional, God let it. I knew this was the one God called me to. That's a cool story. But right after I gave birth, you know, the six post six week postpartum.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (06:53.202)
OB check, the results came back with HPV and I was high risk and I had to get a colposcopy and I'm like, and they were basically like you're at stage three, two and three with some of that and like if it's four that's cancer and I'm like HPV I heard about Gardasil but like I can't believe this is actually happening and so I found out that like men can be carrier for like up to five years.
So like it might've happened with my husband from like his past. And we're both doing this intentional walk with God and all this and we're like, what? And he's like, you're not gonna die. We're not doing this. So what do we do? And I learned about alkalinity and alkaline foods and how the body cannot, cancer cannot survive in alkaline state. But interesting enough, the vaginas survives better in a acidic state.
So like everything else in our body wants alkaline, but our vagina doesn't. So that's a whole different story, but just interesting. So I started beginning that journey and I switched all our foods because it needed to not only die in my body, but it had to die in his. And they wanted to do a leap on me. So I said, give me six months. Let me see what I can do to get this. Cause it's an immune weakness that this thing even flares up. And after pregnancy, your immune system is low. So I went into the herb kingdom.
and I found wormwood and I found foods that my body just was like alkaline works. And there was nutritionists who were angry with me like alkaline's far-fetched and fake. And I was just like, I don't know what world I'm walking in, but I know what's working. And when I, after the nine months, I went and got a coposcapy redone and I was cured. Like I didn't have it anymore. And the doctor couldn't even believe it. She's like, what did you do?
And I'm like, I just, I went alkaline and I did some herbs and I just, I took beta-glucan and I did real expensive supplements, but cancer is more expensive. So I was willing to put my money towards the supplements and I just, I fell in there and never came out. So.
Kim (09:04.244)
Wow, that's so interesting. And so for the people that don't know who are listening, can you, you said a leap procedure. Do you want to explain what the leap procedure is?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (09:15.01)
Yes, something I didn't get. Yes, so basically they go in and they cut out the little pieces of compromised tissue in your cervix, which is what you use during pregnancy to keep the baby in. So it's supposed to regenerate, supposed to, and they can't guarantee that. So it could possibly compromise your ability to be pregnant or hold a pregnancy later because this is all could be.
And I had a psychiatrist actually tell me, and that's not her field of study, she said, this is off the record, but don't get the leap. And I just kind of went, that was super weird, I'm gonna do some more research, and I found that it wasn't so clear that it fixes anything. But that's what it is, yeah.
Kim (10:00.368)
Wow. Yeah, that's really, really such an amazing story. I love that. So I want to, I'm going to sort of shelf the, the detox piece, cause I know that I'll ask some more questions about that, but that's a really important part of your story. And it's something that you do carry on with now. So we'll come back to that. But yesterday, so the date of this recording, the date, the previous day, you and I were on Instagram live together. And you told a part of your story there that I think is super interesting that,
Am.mee.chee Jensen (10:06.571)
Yes.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (10:15.245)
Okay.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (10:24.428)
Yes.
Kim (10:30.66)
was what ultimately led you to say, I have a prolapse. So when you knew something was wrong, but you didn't quite understand what was going on, you didn't know how to describe it. Can you refer back to the TV show that you were talking about?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (10:40.311)
Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (10:44.65)
Yes, yes. So this was all like 2020. I just had a baby in May, middle of this whole thing. And my daughter and I, I like to teach her just health stuff. And so I don't know how it happened, but they had a 16 season, Dr. Pol the veterinarian on Amazon Prime. And so we are Netflix and we just watched it and we binged it and it had all this beautiful health, but it was animals.
And he's like out of Michigan. He's an eight-year-old guy from, he's Dutch, and he does large and small animals, but the cows were always prolapsing. They were always having a bulge coming out, and he was shoving this big bag back in and having to hurry before they died. And this is after they were giving birth. And so...
I just kept watching all these big bulge bags and then the pigs would have it sometimes, or the goats, but the cows were always dealing with it. And it was a matter of essence to get it back in. So 16 seasons, I saw so many prolapsing. I was like, okay, cows and birth, okay. So yeah, that was where I got to kind of see the sensation visually of what a prolapse is and what it looks like countless times.
So yeah, that's basically what happened to me. So then I had sensations that were going on. I had water falling out of me from the pool play two days prior in the kitchen with my mother-in-law. And I'm just like smelling it, it's water. It's not a fluid from my body. And I'm like, why is stuff falling out? My diva cup, I could no longer hold it in. And I had switched to the mature post 30 post baby one. And it was just...
I couldn't use it. So I just switched to diapers and like, um, depends. And I was like, this is just how it is and we'll move on. But then I started, um, subconsciously just putting my hands flat and pushing up against my vagina, like the bone. And it just gave me a sense of wellbeing to kind of like push through the day. And it was like a bulgy, heavy feeling. And it was just a nuisance.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (13:02.426)
strong enough and consistent enough for me to like, I need to handle this right now. It would come and go, come and go. And then the lower back pain started and that was just staying. And so one day my husband and I were just driving back from like counseling or something and I did that push. And for some reason that moment, the cow, the big bulging bag, the pushing it in.
bulge that I felt I was pushing it all connected. And I just said, honey, you need to take me to the emergency room. I think I have a prolapse, but I don't know, I don't know anything about this world. So he took me straight there and the OB doctor looked in and he was like, not the OB, the ER doctor looked in. He said, yeah, you do have a prolapse. I don't know which one though. So we need to get you referred to the OB and that's where it started. So yeah, oh cow.
Kim (13:57.24)
Yeah, I think that's such a cool, you know, oddly enough, it's just a funny story, right? And the little things that we don't think are a big deal at the time and all of a sudden it just creates this light bulb moment for you later on, right?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (14:05.547)
It is. And I felt led to watch the show with her. And my daughter was two then, she's six now. She loved the show. And so I felt like it was something we needed to watch. It was enriching. I learned more about what I needed to take for lactation because I'm a hyper lactator as far as milk goes, breastfeeding. So I learned so much.
but I did not know that later I was gonna have this large epiphany that was gonna like change the trajectory of some things with my vagina, so yeah. Yes.
Kim (14:43.34)
Okay, so you go to the ER, yes, you have a prolapse, but I'm not sure which one refers you on to an OB-GYN and then take us from there. How did you kind of get the diagnosis and what did you do?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (14:53.138)
Yes. So the first OB was really fearful. I was 35 and I was coming in for something I guess most women in this area in Wisconsin only come around in their like 50s or 60s while they're after they're done doing child rearing. So she was just shocked that I was there so body aware and in the geriatric.
period of time. So it was like, let's get you stitched up. Let's get surgery now. She didn't tell me my stage. She didn't tell me anything. She just said, you have a recto cell and let's get you on that table. And I just switched, politely switched to OBs. And I found one whose husband was a colon specialist, which I told you, I love the colon. And so she just had both the both worlds together just in her heart. And she was politely told me what stage I was in. And by then I had read your website.
So I knew what to ask a little bit, but I hadn't finished. I just had to get moving. And so she told me I was stage two. And after that, she just was calm. It wasn't about my body. It was, do you plan on having any more kids? And I said, I'm 90% sure I'm done. But for me, as far as faith goes, sometimes there's surprise babies that just need to be on this earth. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure, like 90.
but I can't account for just things that I feel like God has his hand on. So she's like, okay, well, let's get you into pelvic floor therapy, because stage two is totally like life managing, where you won't have to get surgery and probably repair some stuff, but you're gonna have to have bowel management through this whole process. You're gonna need to learn how to keep on top of that and your hydration, but we're gonna get you into pelvic floor therapy, so.
I just danced myself over to the pelvic floor therapist and I was with her for about nine months with like a little break in between. And I built a wonderful relationship with her where there was just a level of trust. A lot of sexual trauma actually got healed during my pelvic floor therapy because there's so much addressed there, even with like how to breathe properly. Like I didn't realize I was such a shallow breather and I was a chest breather.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (17:11.262)
and you can't do anything for pelvic floor therapy, breathing from here. Like even an officiated bowel cannot be executed without breathing from the diaphragm. So she was addressing many things. I was crying in there sometimes, but we were addressing the prolapse. And I got a lot of confidence in my muscles doing what they were supposed to and understanding how vital it was. Nine months is a whole course. Like...
That's a certification almost if I had done a class. And so it is, it is. And I didn't know I was in that place where this became like a, I'm like, I'm waking up. And what I realized was that I had dysfunction in that area, but then it was connecting to my diastasis, recti stuff from the past. And I was just realizing how my body was supposed to function and how much it hadn't been functioning. So.
Kim (17:41.62)
It's growing another baby.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:06.478)
crazy stuff was going on in there. Miracles were flying all over the place. It was amazing, so, yeah.
Kim (18:13.0)
Yeah, I think I first like the part of that I like the most is that, you know, there was this calm demeanor from your doctor. And also that she recommended, I think it was, you said it was a she. Yeah. That she recommended pelvic floor physical therapy as the first line of defense. Like that, that is, I don't want to say it doesn't happen, but it's, it's not the norm yet. And hopefully
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:26.635)
Yes.
Kim (18:38.92)
it becomes the norm. But anyway, so you, and then thankfully the person you referred to was amazing. You have this connection. It's an intimate therapy. You need to be in a place where you trust and feel comfortable with this person and had a lot of transformation happen over the nine months. What were some of the, there was some manual treatment looking at your breath, that type of thing. What sort of exercises or what was sort of your home, your homework or home, home protocol that you were doing?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:40.587)
Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:45.73)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:51.701)
Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (18:58.762)
Yes.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (19:07.65)
So I got a pessary right away and they sized me and I was like a size five. And I don't know how far up the pessaries go but there's many shapes. Some that don't allow like intimacy and some that do and they usually go look with the ones that do when you're younger. And like seventies and up, they have the ones typically that just close the whole area up and hold everything where it should be. So I would had a pessary the entire time and then I was doing the exercises and then she would have me remove the pessary
up to like three days to like a week at times when she felt like I was showing progress and then let me know when I needed to put it back in if there were symptoms that called for it. So I started getting longer and the longest I went was like 10 days without my pessary and then finally the backache started again so I was like okay I have to put it back in. But in there she had me she called it opening the gate and then
Closing the garage, I think, is what I ended up saying. That one worked for me. So when I'd open the gate, that was exhaling, inhaling, opening the gate. And I didn't realize I was actually breathing in unison, which is wrong, inhaling and pulling my stomach in. And that's not how we breathe. So learning just to open the gate. My stomach's supposed to extend when I inhale. So this goes in. The belly goes out.
and the gate opens and then the reverse, you know, exhale, stomach goes in, garage closes. And that process, once you've practiced enough, it's supposed to function like that without you being so conscious and then the trust of that. But that's how you get a functioning pelvic floor. And so she would have me do exercises with the machine and I'd put this apparatus in that I take home and bring.
and it was like a little knob with a metal thing on it. And she'd put that in, or I would put it in, and then she had a machine that would have exercise routines for my vagina. And that worked really well for me, because I could see it. And I wasn't always very comfortable with, and I think she noticed it. I didn't ever say like, I don't want you doing anything manual with me, but you could just tell I was dealing with something. So she figured out how to work with me.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (21:30.782)
Um, and I, if I ever asked, then she, I would say I might need help with this, but I'd usually end up figuring it out. So she also realized that my sphincter was super tight and it was affecting the backside was affecting the front. And so like, we would have to make sure that I had to learn how to loosen my glutes up. Um, I was doing a lot of gripping in my glute area to sustain the rectocell, uh, which was doing nothing. So, um,
There was a lot of maneuvering with making sure my glutes were loose, that my sphincter wasn't tight, that I wasn't pelvic floor functioning, but like gripping in the back, which shouldn't be happening when I'm gripping in the front, if that makes sense. So we had to do a lot of isolations for me. And then even I got a, had to do where I used my finger and pressed on the sphincter rim.
and areas to just loosen that up. And my body had like a very visceral reaction to that. And that was where I was like, okay, my body's going through like some healing from just my past going through this. Cause I'm having to be so hands-on with my body and the ways that just stuff was uncomfortable but it was breakthrough. So man, and yeah, so the breath,
breathing properly, how it affects your bowel completion, having to, what's it called, where you have to, there's a tool for it, but I never got the tool, but for erectocell, yeah, to push, yeah, the splinting. So I had to do splinting all the time in my day to day. Every day I was splinting. At the most I ever, I went maybe three days without splinting.
Kim (23:09.456)
The femmys, the splinting, yep.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (23:23.57)
And it was like one day I actually cut myself inside with my nail and it was so traumatic for me. And I was like, I can't live like this. Like it was very emotional for me. And just to cut yourself like, because I just did it wrong and you have to be, there's so much time taking in the bathroom. And then she, I ended up, they basically told me to like have a stool softener. So I ended up getting more of a natural one than the one like then Miralax. My
my naturopathic doctor was like, stop taking that stuff, please, like, get, take this. So I got a magnesium effervescent powder and I would put that in my water every day. And then I noticed during my menstrual cycle, my stool was harder, hydration was lower, just being on the menstrual cycle. So I realized like I had to up everything, my electrolytes, all of it during the cycle. So it was just a body learning experience.
all together was beautiful.
Kim (24:24.428)
Yeah, I love how aware you are and how much you pay attention to the signs and symptoms and signals that your body is sending and that you have this apparent to me is this innate trust that there's a wisdom in your body and you'll figure it out and even though there may be it's a there's something in like an obstacle in the way you're going to figure out how to get through it. So I guess with all of that then so what at what point
was with the pelvic floor physical therapist, at what point was surgery now something that you were considering?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (25:00.154)
Yeah, so I think the day was like I'd been going to her regularly, like I was going once a week. And then some time, you know, once a week, and then, I mean, this is for months, and then she just, before I went to the appointment, I just remember being exhausted, like, you know, I want things to get better. I just got resized for the same size pessary. Like, like if it's time for surgery or
what like I'm ready. I'm just ready for something different than this. And I went in that day and she just like does like a review sometimes so we don't do anything but talk. And she just said, so I don't think this is your muscles. Like we've gone through so much exercising and your muscles are strong. She goes, I think this is your ligament and we can't strengthen that. And
That word hadn't been used because I knew fascia tissue. I had looked at the diagram and been explained like what was weak and why it was happening. And so I had to kind of translate ligament. Are you talking about the fascia tissue? She goes, yes. I think that it's that. I don't think it's the other one. So I wanna recommend you to the one, the surgeon that everyone goes to if they do surgery, you know, from this process.
But I'd want you to talk to your doctor Milo and let her know that I'm recommending it. And I said, can you write a note? She goes, but Dr. Metzler has been really good at fixing these and I think it's time. And I just was shocked, but I wasn't scared anymore. Like when I had heard it from that first lady, like it was like, is there anything else we can do? It was no fear at all. It was like I had been catapulted and didn't even know I had been moved to another place. So.
I was ready and so I went through the process, made sure she notated what she needed to so I wouldn't have to do any convincing. Went in and she had to do like a pre-op screening to send me to the surgeon doctor, surgeon OB, because she didn't do that surgery. And so she went in and she goes, oh, I see your bladder's coming down a little too. Hmm, well we'll probably need to address that also. And I'm like, wait, what? She's like, yeah. So I'm like, all right. And I said, is my pear?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (27:24.098)
Paraneum where it should be it just seems like everything's just really off. She goes it looks fine so then she sent me to Dr. Metzler and Kelsey that's the pelvic floor therapist. She's amazing. Like I don't know I don't know if I don't know where she came from, but she's amazing But I went to Dr. Metzler and then he went in he goes. Yeah your paraneum is off Yeah, your bladders
It's less progressed than your rectocell. Your rectocell is pretty, pretty progressed. So we're going to get you all stitched up when you want to come in. So I scheduled it two weeks out and I was working part-time as like a teacher at a monastery. So I said, listen, I got to go. I got to get my vagina fixed. And she actually had a rectocell back when they did mesh like 20 something years ago and the mesh had migrated, then disintegrated.
and she got like 10 grand for the lawsuit. So she wasn't very sure if this was gonna work out. So I needed someone who was a little more encouraging than that. So that's when I reached out to you, yeah.
Kim (28:33.688)
Yeah, I love that. And so kind of multiple opinions along the way, seeing the pelvic floor physical therapy, having her present, you know, that I don't think, I think we've done everything that we can do and we're kind of at this stage. And then you have a choice now you can continue managing or move to the next option, which is surgery. And so you make the decision, you meet the surgeon two weeks later, you are you have surgery. But in the meantime, you had already found me and we booked a you booked a session with me.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (28:52.031)
Yeah, so ready.
Kim (29:03.408)
kind of to get you ready. So what did you find most helpful about that process? Or was there something in particular that you learned during that initial consultation that helped you with your surgery?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (29:06.155)
Yes.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (29:17.71)
So I would say that it was me talking to someone who had the surgery and was two years postpartum. Plus I needed to see someone on the other side. And so like just you talking about yours, you know, not like just your clients that you've worked with, but yours and the post-op prep that worked and didn't work was really vital. So like,
The pelvic brace was a big deal. I wish I had gotten a better size. I had size too small, but I understood why I had it and I did use it. I just had to modify it a little bit during the surgery, post-surgery time, just to not grip. So like you had these little things where it was like, I thought this might've worked. It didn't, I didn't barely used it. And then there was where this, I wish I had gotten sooner. And those things really played a part.
for me and then I think the Arnica and those holistic ones by Borion or something, I think those actually did a lot. It was just so smooth that I couldn't tell because I was taking the diclofenic that they had given me but I was going pretty big gaps and I think it was from the Borion holistic stuff and so I did the things that you had said worked.
I would have loved to stick to the bone broth, the soups more, but I also didn't gain weight during post-op and that was partly because of how you shared how you managed your food. And so I wouldn't have even thought about how to manage the food because I didn't realize a lot of people post-op gain weight because you have to, you're doing just a whole different way of life. And like you showed how you were maintaining.
the healthy parts about you while something was mending. And I even got the red light therapy, but I didn't get the one you got. I wanted to, but I was like, I need something now. And my husband's still trying to figure out, do we want to buy this one? So I got a lamp that I could just position and put it where I wanted to lay down. So you had just these very, that wasn't actually a thing I used. And then like the, I think the.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (31:38.638)
I forgot what it's called, it starts with a C, calendula cream. You said you didn't use as much, but then there were things like, man, I wish I got that sooner, or like this really helped heal. And then you just shared a whole body version of how to take care of this. And then your time schedule for what real healing is, because the success rate for this is kind of like, not where we'd like it for erectocell repair. What you shared was like,
this is more of a six month post-op recovery, not what my surgeon had shared, which was like eight weeks, six to eight. And if you're feeling better, you can go back at six. And he did tell me like, hey, with the whole recapping and everything, you should wait till eight, use your whole time. But I knew because I talked to you, this is not an eight week game. This is way further than an eight week game. And I'm gonna have...
longevity with this surgery recovery and a lifelong benefit more doing it this long game. So you were the only person I had heard from that said like, this is not short. This is six months. You need to really dedicate so you have this big rocking volleyball slamming success point.
Kim (32:42.128)
Mm-hmm.
Kim (32:58.971)
What role did you, I'm coming back to your detox now, did you do any specific detox protocols while you were preparing for your surgery or while you were recovering?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (33:10.698)
Yeah, so I did dabble with just more vitamin dense soups, just so that I wasn't complicating my digestion so my bowels weren't a big issue because I wanted that successful first poop after surgery. Mine was not as lovely as yours and it did really give me some like emotional regression a little bit. And I was like, ah, but then
I was able to recoup from there. So I did, I made sure that I pre-op, obviously I had those nine months of physical therapy. So my body was primed and I was working out 10 minutes to 12 minutes every morning, like hit workout. And my body just really liked that. So I was keeping those up all the way till surgery. And so I felt strong, I felt healthy, but then my food, I kept it as simple as I could.
And I'm more of a carnivore diet eater with like some antioxidant supports and like I call it stringent foods like kimchi or like sauerkraut, like I'm more of that diet. So I really tried to keep everything like easy digestion foods or foods that promoted bowel movement. And that really helped. Sometimes I was really hungry and I ate something I shouldn't have post-surgery, but it was very rare. And then I got back on track. So yeah, I kept it.
easy digestion foods, I would say, for me.
Kim (34:42.476)
Awesome, before we wrap up, we're getting near the end, but I wanna now, how far post-op are you? How are you feeling? And what has been your return to kind of activities of daily living and exercise, that type of thing?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (35:01.43)
Yeah. Yeah, so I am five plus months post-op. On the 11th of November, I'll be six months. So we're coming up on six months, which I just realized. And I am doing like a light brisk jog, very light, like a slow pace jog, like where it's like, is she jogging or just walking or heavy? But I'm able to sustain it.
you know from like you know one to two light poles apart that's kind of how I Grace myself like that and I'm walking every day in the morning Just around like a couple of blocks without fatigue. I have a desire to jump and I'm jumping sometimes I've done a full-out sprint already. It was raining and I didn't plan on it, but it did happen I'm gonna keep that down to a minimum right now till I get you know further out But I got to see that I could
do it, which was amazing. I'm able to support like a squat without feeling like anything's falling out, which is amazing. So I can do like, I don't know any other mothers, but like the squatty potty with your hands when they need to go and you're in random spots. Like I'm a champ. I can hold it. And I'm not fatigued. And I'm not thinking about my back or like something falling out of my vagina. And it's amazing.
intimacy wise, like things are moving really well there. And sometimes I have days where I'm like, I feel like I'm gripping and it's just everything's tight, but I'm learning to really get into like, massaging out my glutes and stuff. Cause a lot of it seems to be, I just, I've gotten to an old habit of gripping in the glute area. So I'm learning to really keep the stretching exercises and
roll rolling out the muscles is become like very much like a almost a daily joy almost there and um the whole managing my bowels because that's really important for just long-term prolapse keeping prolapse away is been more smooth so like i just kind of do it naturally now it doesn't feel like a chore
Am.mee.chee Jensen (37:16.482)
But I do see my pelvic floor therapist, but the appointments are spacing out because I have less dependency on her. So that's been cool. Like I love her, I'm going to miss her. But as those things get more and more widespread, that's actually a success point. So I'm seeing her like once every three weeks right now. And knowing when to cancel because I'm doing fine. But just recently last week, and this would be the last thing is I started going into my old breathing pattern.
not synchronized properly and I had to go back in and let her know like something happened and I don't know what it is but I'm having trouble with those good bowels and I'm noticing it. I'm feeling a fullness in my vagina and she was like, oh you're gripping with your butt again. All of that's tight so she just showed me and I felt equipped again and I'm like, all right I'm in here so I'm feeling much better but the recovery was like two days.
once I had the knowledge and the reminder. So that's my life now and being healthy, I really didn't gain any weight post surgery because I followed the expertise of the experts, you know, including yours. So there's success in this end, yeah.
Kim (38:30.124)
Yeah. And, and you know, you're, you're one of those experts there as well. You're the expert of your own body, right? And so I think, you know, everything that you've shared in terms of your, your body awareness is, is really impeccable and it's, it's brought you here and it will continue to carry you forward. So I'm, I'm really proud of you. I'm really excited for you. And yeah, super grateful that you shared your story.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (38:36.446)
Yeah.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (38:53.794)
Thank you.
Thank you. Yes, can I say one last thing? Cause I just remembered it. For anyone who's considering the surgery or they're about to head into surgery, like you've got a surgery date or you're hesitant. Once you do decide to get surgery and then you have it, make sure that you can actually pee before you leave the hospital.
Kim (39:00.592)
Please.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (39:21.95)
Not, it fell out of me, but I got the pee level down. Like they need to see that you can pee after. Make sure you actually pee, not that it fell out of you. You need to know, because otherwise, you shouldn't be leaving the hospital until that's functioning properly. Otherwise, you're gonna have kind of the rough parts that I had that are unnecessary. So don't leave. You know your body. I second guessed myself and I didn't push. Don't leave until you can really pee.
That's all I have to say. You'll thank me later.
Kim (39:52.844)
Yeah. Where can people find you if they wanted to learn a little bit more about what you do from a detox perspective?
Am.mee.chee Jensen (40:02.034)
You can find me on Instagram. That's the only platform I have, like a lot of data there at Detox Underscore with Regard. And there's faith and herbs and detox all in one place for mom and child and family. So yeah.
Kim (40:19.652)
Amazing, amazing. And I'll have that in the show notes as well. So, Amitthi, thank you so much for your time and for sharing your story and for now becoming really a pelvic health evangelist like me and out there trying to get more people into the pelvic health realm.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (40:22.306)
Okay.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (40:35.382)
Get comfortable with your vaj-
Kim (40:39.753)
That's amazing. Thank you so much.
Am.mee.chee Jensen (40:40.827)
Yes. Okay, thank you.
