Kim Vopni (00:01.274)
Hi, Kaya, welcome to Between Two Lips. I'm excited to have you. This is a topic that I would say recently because of my own just curiosity with parasites and detoxing. I've been watching coffee enemas for a while and I just, I don't know, didn't really dive in, that might not be the right word, but I didn't really go down that path for a little while. However, I've been watching your...
channel very closely and I really wanted to have you on to talk about this because I think it's something that I mean constipation and gut health is something we talk about a lot here and a lot of people in my community struggle with and this is something when I read through your personal story was kind of the catalyst that got you into creating a company all about enemas and detoxing and coffee enemas in particular so I would love to learn more about your story please introduce yourself and tell us what
led you down this path to start your company.
Kyah (00:58.958)
Well, my name is Kaya Siri and I am in Brisbane, Australia now, but I grew up in Seattle and I ended up starting the Happy Bum Co, which is our at home detox and gut health brand six years ago. And, but that actually followed on from starting my own colon hydrotherapy clinic where we specialize in constipation, cleansing the colon because when I was a
I was actually diagnosed with colonic inertia, which means exactly like it sounds that my colon had stopped moving and This is not something that is talked about it's extremely taboo and I actually didn't know that going to the toilet every day was normal and that it was something that I should be doing because No one in my family spoke about it. My friends didn't talk about it and I ended my I ended up in the hospital with
what they thought was a burst appendix but when they did the x-ray it actually came back that my colon was so full and I hadn't been to the toilet in several months and my body was almost in toxic shock.
Kim Vopni (02:11.63)
Wow.
Kyah (02:11.646)
So the road back from that was really hard because there was no real information on it. And you know, the medical world at that time, and I think there's still a bit of a gap here as well. It was laxatives, was colonoscopy prep, and there was no sort of investigation on the root cause. And looking back now as a gut specialist, I can see exactly why this happened.
to me and it's you know it wasn't until I spent years in and out of you know the medical system there was there was really nothing that they could do and my parents are actually both doctors so we had access to I had access to the best gastroenterologist the best specialist every blood test every you know horrible rectal exam why is this happening and all my results came up normal
Kim Vopni (02:55.326)
wow.
Kyah (03:10.37)
And you know, I was a teenager. looked so pregnant. I felt disgusting. But at the same time, my hormones were also becoming extremely dysregulated. I was putting on weight. I was anxious. I was having brain fog, memory issues. I had no energy. And I was a kid who was extremely athletic and bouncing off the wall. So my parents watched this whole
decline and you know specialist after specialist nothing is working and it wasn't until it was this is about four years later finally they just said look there's nothing else we can do but remove 90 % of your bell and give you a colorectomy bag which is a poo bag at 16.
And my parents who are both, know, my dad's a cardiologist and my mom was an anesthetist and they said, no way, no way. There has to be something else we can do. And that is when someone told someone, you know, down the whisper chain, Hey, have you tried, have you tried colonic? And we're like, what is that? And so there happened to be this gorgeous clinic in Seattle where I grew up.
And that's where my story begins because I went in there and I got relief in an hour.
And it was absolutely life changing for me because nothing else to that point had worked. I felt so hopeless. I felt so alone. I felt so embarrassed about the whole thing. And you know, there's also an emotional flow on from that. know, not only can you poop, but then your shame and your anxiety around it is actually making it worse. And it wasn't until I went there and I started to go in for regular colonics and they actually just cleared out my bowel with natural purified
Kim Vopni (04:57.636)
Yeah.
Kyah (05:06.208)
water and I mean I felt sick at first because all of the toxic load coming out but then I began to get educated by my colon hydrotherapists on what I was eating what I was putting on my body I was a typical teenager in America and I was having Starbucks frappuccinos loaded with sugar every day I was eating all the processed food I was so stressed there was I'd been on so many antibiotics for
different things. There were so many places that I could improve in my health and well-being and as soon as I started to detoxify my body, everything changed. Everything. It was like I had a new lease on life and you know it's something that I've had to continue managing my whole life just because that is sort of to the point where my bowel got and a lot of
Kim Vopni (05:49.304)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (06:01.07)
It's very emotional. But the enemas actually came after the colonics because it was amazing to go in and have this colon hydrotherapy treatment, but my bowel still wasn't moving on its own. It still needed support and I could only go in once a week. And so those other other days I wasn't going to the toilet still, which is very common, especially when we're starting to retrain the bowel. It doesn't just magically
jump back up and start working perfectly again.
And so I needed help and support at home and they taught me how to do enemas, which is like a little mini colonic that you can do at home to get relief from constipation. And it was really then that I felt so empowered and I felt finally like I had control of my own health again because it wasn't reliant on someone else. You know, if someone canceled an appointment or this and that, I finally had a tool that no matter what I
Kim Vopni (07:00.975)
Yeah.
Kyah (07:07.028)
travel with it, could start going on holidays again because I wasn't so uncomfortable and anxious. well, you know, will I feel, you know, really uncomfortable and bloated? So that's where I started doing enemas and this is 20 years, this is 20 years ago. This is way before they were cool. This was back when everything was so taboo. I was gluten-free eating the cardboard stuff and you know, but now it tastes great but I was
Kim Vopni (07:23.692)
Yeah. Wow.
Kim Vopni (07:28.238)
Hahaha
Kim Vopni (07:36.59)
Yeah.
Kyah (07:36.8)
people back in you know in the early 2000s really searching out those you know alternatives and watching my inflammation and beginning to really understand the toxicity that surrounds us today and it's pretty overwhelming I think but I always say that I was blessed because I learned this so early in life that the rest of my journey now has been smooth sailing because
because of it.
Kim Vopni (08:07.566)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (08:08.438)
And I started my own colon hydrotherapy clinic because I absolutely fell in love with gut health and, and helping people to basically get the same relief that I did and not feel embarrassed, not feel ashamed and to really spread awareness on the topics that people don't want to talk about, which is constipation, bloating, anything gut health related, you know, there's so many women or people in general having diarrhea
and it's so embarrassing and they can't talk about it. Some of them won't even leave their houses. Social life is so impacted. So I feel so passionate about that and helping people because I know what it's like. And there are some incredible tools that are out there that you just don't know about.
Kim Vopni (08:42.434)
Yeah, yeah.
Kim Vopni (08:51.502)
Yeah, but...
Kim Vopni (08:56.76)
Yeah, so I want to start with colon hydrotherapy, also called colonics. Can you walk us through what it is? What's the process? What happens? Like you said, you had immediate relief. So what is it that gives you that relief?
Kyah (09:17.674)
a colonic or a colonic irrigation or colon hydrotherapy treatment is essentially a way to introduce purified water into the bowel, into your large intestine. So as a client, what you do is you come in, you lie on a bed, your therapist inserts a speculum into your rectum. It sounds scary, but it's not. It feels very similar to inserting a tampon. and if you've had kids,
anything like that, you know, it's really not as invasive as it might be in your head. And from there, there's two hoses attached to the speculum and you're attached to a machine that filters the water, makes sure that the pressure is really low and that the water is a nice body temperature. So essentially what happens is when you turn the water on, a gentle flow of purified water is introduced into
the into the colon. If you've ever had an enema before, it's basically a guided light larger version of an enema. So it's sort of like, I like to tell people, it's sort of like hosing out your drain pipes with a little bit of water and you know how they can be very clay-like, very hard if they're dehydrated. The stool that sits in there for too long gets all of the water absorbed out. So the colonic essentially just softens all the stool with water, liquefies
it and then your own bowel the muscles in your bowel the peristaltic motion is actually stimulated so your body actually moves the waist out.
Kim Vopni (10:59.322)
So with you, because you had the inertia, was that a bit of a challenge or did that actually happen for you as well? Yeah, it did.
Kyah (11:06.467)
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's all gravity fed. So even if your bowel tone is really low, it's still going to come away with gravity. And it is truly incredible. We have people that come in from all walks of life. There are so many reasons that the bowel shuts down or that constipation becomes an issue. A lot of them are stress and trauma, but hormonal fluctuations, lifestyle and diet. There are so many different things.
Even medications, pain medications, lots of different things can impact us. And the colonic works on everyone because it's very simply like soaking a pan that's got stuff hardened on there and then washing it away. And we do belly massage, we help the colon move, but once the body feels safe and everything is hydrated, it will let go.
you know it took me to your bowel is about two meters long so about five feet long so it's not going to happen in one colonic it's going to be several sessions ideally close together ideal if you can take some sort of magnesium oxide we have one called consteclear that will help to just soften everything they're stool softeners and your body will just release and the color tells us things the
tells us things is their undigested food we see parasites come through we see lots of inflammation coming through we see undigested food coming through some people's releases are black some are yellow so it's absolutely fascinating but it's also a live stream of biofeedback exactly what's going on in your gut
Kim Vopni (12:58.97)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, what did the different colors mean?
Kyah (13:04.748)
So black, the darker, so black is often if you are taking an iron supplement, but very, very dark colors are old. That's old material sitting in there. lots of long-term constipation. Sometimes we have people that come to us in their sixties and they've been constipated since they were a teenager. And they've been going once a week and putting up with that because they didn't know that there was any other option.
Kim Vopni (13:31.684)
They thought it was normal.
Kyah (13:33.85)
And so those stools can be so dark and so hard, often very pebble-like coming through. And then you kind of have the opposite. A healthy color is that nice medium brown. You can always tell when someone comes in and they look after themselves, it is just this easy light brown. It comes out. There's no cramping. There's no gas. It's just a breeze. And then you have everyone who has
liver congestion. your stress, maybe you're taking medication, maybe you're drinking quite a bit of alcohol or vaping or smoking, eating lots of processed foods and those liver colors are like yellow, very orangey yellow. And people are often quite shocked but then we do a few different things, know, support the body with coffee enemas and various liver herbs.
and you can watch the color come right back to normal.
Kim Vopni (14:37.476)
Wow. So with an enema, as you mentioned, this is kind of like an at-home colonic. And I remember when I had my rectocele repair, I needed to do a fleet enema. So there are water enemas, there's fleet enemas, but there's very different types, coffee enemas. So as a whole, what is an umbrella and what are the different types, including a coffee enema?
Kyah (14:59.564)
That's a great question because there's a lot of misunderstanding. So a fleet enema is what you will typically see in the chemist and it's 133 mils, which is, I mean, it's tiny and you have a bowel that's compacted. That's five feet, two meters long. The relief from that is extremely minimal. I wouldn't even bother unless you had the most minute level of
Kim Vopni (15:11.802)
tiny.
Kim Vopni (15:17.562)
Yeah
Kyah (15:29.488)
constipation or yeah, there's much better options and that's also a chemical solution. So when we talk about water enemas and coffee enemas, that's with a gravity flow enema kit. So the fleet one, you kind of squeeze it up. It's a little tiny bottle and you squeeze it. Whereas the enemas actually require, they work similarly to the colon hydrotherapy machine where they need gravity. So you actually hang the enema bag up.
So most people will hang it on their towel rack or a shower and then you are below it So the fluid from the enema kit is flowing into your colon just via gravity which means it's very gentle and very safe and very low pressure so there's a difference between the solutions that you use and So if you use a water enema, that's a great way to just get immediate relief
from constipation and bloating because essentially what you're doing and that's sort of the mini colonic at home where the water is coming in it's softening it's stimulating that lower bowel and then you're gonna feel like you need to go to the toilet and you just sit on the toilet to release and you can have a nice release like that.
Now where I think the magic is and where I've really moved my focus based on both what I've seen in clients, but also my own personal healing journey as well as the coffee enemas. And coffee enemas are different to water enemas because the properties of the organic coffee when they're taken rectally, when you absorb them in an enema, actually stimulate the liver to produce about 700
times its normal amount of glutathione.
Kyah (17:22.22)
and glutathione is your master antioxidant detoxifier. It's in every one of your cells and it can help your body to eliminate heavy metals and free radical cells and boost your antioxidants which helps with oxidative stress in the body and a coffee enema stimulates phase one, two and three liver detoxification. So essentially you're boosting bio flow, you're having the
liver, the blood is circulating through the liver about four to five times whilst you're holding this coffee enema for 15 minutes. And then afterwards, you sit on the toilet and you have the release of your life.
So because you are literally, it's like getting all this stuff ready for exit and then you're actually promoting the way out. And that is why we absolutely love coffee enemas in addition to any kind of detox protocol, parasite cleanse, any kind of fasting, anything like that because what people often don't realize is that it's so important to get rid of the harmful organisms or bacteria, but we then have to
Kim Vopni (18:09.912)
Hahaha
Kyah (18:38.774)
physically remove it from the body. need to open the bowels. And the coffee enema does all of those things. And for your audience in particular, and I'll share this because it's actually how I fell in love with them, is there's a huge hormonal component to the liver. And I was suffering, so I had all these constipation issues. My body was so toxic. And I had done colonics and I'd done water enemas for
many years but I still suffered with period pain and I was also told in my early teens that I had PCOS and I would never fall pregnant. just they said that you know that's never gonna happen for you and I was pretty devastated but I was still on my healing journey and I just sort of forgot about it.
And I started in my early twenties. I had done a lot of research because I still getting this period pain. And I was like, this, you know, that's really a big signal for me that there's something still off in my body. And I started deep diving into coffee enemas and gerson therapy and how the liver is so connected to your hormonal system. And I thought, well, I'm doing a water enema every day anyways. I may as well give some organic coffee a try.
And within a couple of months, my period pain vanished. And you don't realize because you notice pain, you don't notice the lack of pain, right? And I realized that my period pain, you know, a couple of months and I'm like, hey, hang on, this is actually so much better. And then a few months after that, I fell pregnant with my son by surprise.
Kim Vopni (20:03.48)
Huh.
Kim Vopni (20:09.038)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (20:23.086)
So, I from that and it's absolutely, once something happens to you and you share it and then all these other women have reached out over the years and the experience is similar and it comes down to the liver and that is what the coffee enemas do and it's in every season of your life the liver is so important. So, yeah.
Kim Vopni (20:46.01)
Okay, so I just did the is it Hull de Clark, the liver cleanse. I just I just finished it on on Sunday. So Sunday was my evacuation day basically where it was like a hose from the inside get clearing out. So I didn't have a lot of stones I noticed like maybe a few so so for those that aren't familiar you're supposed to
Kyah (20:54.733)
Yes.
Kyah (21:05.538)
Yes.
Kim Vopni (21:15.894)
notice that you have like stones, basically, they almost look like stones, collections of grayish, greeny kind of hard stones that will come out. So I noticed a few of those, not very many. But so I was basically like from from Saturday late evening until Sunday kind of late afternoon, there was a lot of liquid coming out of my my butt. How long after would you do a coffee enema?
Do you just have one release and then you just go back to normal or are you flushing for the rest of that day?
Kyah (21:48.942)
Yeah, so usually after a coffee enema, you... So with the coffee enemas, you take... So you hang the bag, you pour the coffee in, you stick the little thing up your bum, you get comfy, you allow the coffee, usually about 700 to 800 mls because the idea is you want to hold it. So you're going to get that maximum benefit of the coffee absorbing and producing that glutathione. If you hold it for the 12 to 15 minutes, that's your sweet.
spot. Now after that, you sit on the toilet and you will probably be there for a good 15 to 20 minutes. would say your first one, even maybe so after that. And it's actually great for people who are constipated too, because as someone who's always suffered with constipation, I find that because the coffee stimulates the peristalsis and increases the bile flow, you actually end up releasing a lot more from the colon anyways. But after you sit on
toilet, you make sure you're done. That's generally it for the day.
Kim Vopni (22:53.016)
Okay. And then for the rest, then your next day you ideally go back to having your regular bowel movement. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yeah.
Kyah (22:59.436)
Yeah, absolutely. But with ideally less congestion in there. Sort of thinking about cars piling up on the highway. know, there's a lot of congestion in the colon. Things are going to be moving a lot slower. You might be leaving things behind on the sides. So if we can do a colon cleanse, it's like clearing all the accidents and all the traffic and your body has a much smoother ride to actually eliminating effectively.
Kim Vopni (23:06.436)
Yeah.
Kim Vopni (23:24.686)
Yeah. And I want to move on to another question, but I just want to highlight that this you're not pouring hot coffee and then hot coffee up your butt. You're making coffee, specific types of coffee, and then you are putting it in and it's warm. It's like body temperature. You're not putting hot coffee up your butt. Yes. OK. OK. Yes. OK. And I want to come back. I want to explore that a little bit.
Kyah (23:43.618)
Yes, very important. And also in our FAQ section.
Kim Vopni (23:50.811)
This was so I have had erectus seal and if you're not familiar with erectus seal, it's where the rectum bulges in the back while the vagina it's type of pelvic organ prolapse and I have it's like sometimes you have PTSD once you've had a prolapse. I've had it surgically repaired, but I I'm very conscious of my bowel movements. I'm very conscious of not straining and doing all the things that means I'm going to have a really good bowel movement every day. And so when I think of
needing to sit on the toilet for longer periods of time or the potential for this to disrupt that little rhythm that I get in, get a little bit nervous about that. so can somebody who has a present rectocele, so if that bulge was there, I know people who have done it. I just kind of want to get your sense. Can people still have a colon hydrotherapy or use a coffee enema? And then also if somebody had a rectal prolapse, so if the rectum was bulging out the anus, is that still?
accessible to those people.
Kyah (24:53.166)
Well the key is that you're going to have to be able to hold the tube in. So if the tube is able to be held, because that's how the fluid is going to come in, then you should be able to. I'm not sure about the prolapse with a colon hydrotherapy treatment because the speculum is a little bit larger. It would be one of those case by case type things. we always try to support people wherever we can. And if a colonic isn't suitable, maybe an enema is more suitable, we can
Kim Vopni (24:59.834)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (25:23.24)
also you know something like the consticle which is the magnesium keeping everything nice and soft. So there's so many different ways of going about it but generally if there is a prolapse internally and usually you can do the enemas still you may just want to be conscious and definitely a lot of women who have hemorrhoids or yeah some prolapses they don't want to sit on the toilet for too long you can definitely have a bit of an initial
release stand up you know wipe stand up and then you can go back down generally though it's because everything is so soft and you're not straining there's not usually an issue not straining
Kim Vopni (26:04.27)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
And coming back to the the end of a piece, so you've mentioned coffee in particular and this is there's also a difference between like you want caffeinated coffee is what's going in the process of holding it is what then stimulates the liver stimulates the glutathione. So decaf does not do the same thing. If somebody had to my understanding, if somebody was sensitive to caffeine,
Is this something, I've read different things, some people don't notice that they have the same jittery feeling, other people notice that they do, is there a commonality there?
Kyah (26:40.162)
Because the coffee is not getting absorbed through the digestive system, it's generally fine. So me personally, I used to be highly addicted to Starbucks as a teenager and I felt all the jitters and I haven't touched caffeine orally since. I decided to, I wanted my own adrenals to wake me up in the morning. And when I do a coffee enema, it's very calming for me and most people will tell you the same thing. So I always recommend doing your first one in the morning
sometimes you get this almost this energy clarity boost. It's never a jittery feeling, very different to drinking caffeine. Again, because it's not going through the digestive system, but a lot of people do them at night and it helps them sleep as well.
Kim Vopni (27:26.842)
So the other, because I follow you on Instagram, I also follow your newsletter, there are herbal mixtures that you can use. Do you mix that into the coffee or is this a separate same practice but with a different infusion, herbal infusion as opposed to caffeine?
Kyah (27:45.72)
We like them as separate infusions. there's so many different herbs that you can use, similar to how you would drink tea or take a herbal tincture. But anytime you're absorbing anything into the intestinal walls, inside the body, you are getting such a huge benefit from that because it's so readily absorbed. And there are so many people with gut inflammation and various issues that it's sort of like, I like to say it's sort of like, you know, when you have a sore throat.
and you drink a calming ginger or turmeric tea and it's nice and warm and it just really coats and nurtures that part of the body that's all doing an enema is very similar.
Kim Vopni (28:28.654)
So what sort of herbs would you be using? I haven't looked at the ingredient list, but what sort of herbs do you put in that are beneficial for the colon?
Kyah (28:36.406)
So you can do turmeric.
and obviously lots of anti-inflammatory properties there. There's ginger. We've just released a new calendula and hibiscus. So calendula is one of the magic marigolds. it's very anti-inflammatory, anti-fungal. It's great for so many different things. Used in very traditional healing for wounds and all sorts of things like that. We've got lemon balm, lemon myrtle, very calming, lavender,
chamomile, chamomile enemas have been around forever. Again, very soothing, helpful if you're having like digestive spasms or if you can't sleep. Very calming and just different to the coffee. So the coffee is a very specific purpose and a very, very detox focused blend. Very, very intense on the liver and whilst it's absolutely great, those with constipation who
are needing maybe more support more regularly. They might like because they need the constipation relief. They might not want to do the coffee enema every single time or maybe they want to do a calming enema before bed. And some people, you know, some people are sensitive or some people have a histamine intolerance. So these are different types of enemas that you can do because everyone is unique.
Kim Vopni (30:05.53)
How often should somebody, I'm assuming, be dependent on what they're trying to address, but is this a daily, multiple times a day, once a week, once a month?
Kyah (30:17.89)
very individual, very goal focused. you'll see, you know, people who are using them as a part of holistic cancer or autoimmune treatments doing them could be several times a day for a period of time to really help to eliminate the toxicity and boost the liver function and liver bile, glutathione. Most people, so say you are having like a hormonal issue or
you're having a lot of anxiety, depression, you've looked into the gut brain access, you're like, okay, probably a lot of toxic exposure over my lifetime. If you want to make a difference to your toxic load and really support the liver, it's like going to the gym. Going once a week, you're probably not going to get the same results as if you went several times that week and did it in a holistic way where you're watching some other things that are affecting the
and colon as well. for some people, so we have a 21-day challenge that we love people to start with because we believe after 21 days things become more of a habit and you will really start to see the difference and once that you know once that initial deep detox is really done things are moving the colon is more clear the liver is functioning more optimally then you can move to more of a maintenance you know regime where most
people do once or twice a week. Yeah.
Kim Vopni (31:51.227)
Okay. And coffee wise, can you buy a bag of Starbucks or a bag of coffee that you see anywhere and make and use that? Yeah,
Kyah (32:03.022)
We get all the questions. Our DMs are lit. No, okay, so you have to use organic.
Kim Vopni (32:17.37)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (32:18.19)
has to be organic. Coffee is one of the most heavily sprayed crops in the world. It's also one of the crops that moulds. So it's so important that you get third-party tested mould and mycotoxin free coffee that is organic.
That's the key. And I personally like so all of our, obviously use my own product. So I, I absolutely want them to be the best because my body is a temple. And what's really important to me is that things are fresh roasted and we do them in smaller batches. So our coffee won't ever sit on the shelf for four years before it gets to you because there's a much higher chance of that product changing. And so those are the things to look out for just premium organic,
Mycotoxin free and coffee that's made in smaller batches so that it's going to be more fresh by the time it reaches you.
Kim Vopni (33:13.988)
And is it similar like, you know, I'd like a dark roast or a blonde or a, like, is there a difference there?
Kyah (33:18.734)
There are two different types. Well, there's lots of different types for so traditional Gerson therapy. So Max Gerson is the doctor that kind of coined the Gerson therapy and actually used coffee enemas as a part of his own tuberculosis treatment and migraines and watched the benefit in his patients. And that's where a lot of the coffee and the popularity started to pop up, even though enemas are a part of ancient medicine in every traditional culture.
So medium roast is what he calls for. And that is just a nice medium roast blend. It smells amazing. sort of, it's a medium dark color. It's not the darkest you'll see. It's in the middle. And that's a great place for anyone to begin. It's high, like our beans are high in caffeine, high in palmitic acid, which is what you're looking for. And then you can also, you can use what's called a golden roast or a light roast coffee.
And this is a lighter version of that that has a little bit of extra caffeine to it. we generally recommend people start with the medium roast. But if you're at like a facility like maybe Hope for Cancer or if you're working with a functional practitioner that wants you to use Gold Roast, it would be because it has a little bit higher caffeine content. And you know what? It's totally personal preference. found as well. Everyone's body seems to
love a different coffee. We have some people that only will have the golden or light roast and some people that love the medium roast even though they've been doing coffee on it forever. So I recommend just trying both and seeing how you feel.
Kim Vopni (34:59.672)
Yeah. So if somebody like myself where I'm, I'm a pretty regular pooper, if I, and I'm looking at this more like I'm, so I did the liver cleanse. I I'm now going to be doing a, a parasite cleanse. And you know, as I said, I, I still putting something at my butt still, I just, because of my rectocele history, it's just, it's a, I'm, I'm hesitant. I really believe in the value and I really want to do it. I just need to just wrap my head around it.
However, once I get my head around it and I decide I'm going forward with this, I'm a regular pooper, you mentioned that in the morning could be beneficial, would I do it before I've had my daily poop or would I do it after?
Kyah (35:41.282)
you to do it after.
Kim Vopni (35:42.745)
Okay.
Kyah (35:43.404)
because we still want the body to have its natural rhythm. the coffee enemas aren't going to impact that, but anytime we can allow the body to remove the stool itself, it's a great thing. And then you're actually going to have a much easier time holding the coffee enema because you don't have this morning's bowel movement just sitting right there wanting to nap because it's going to be stimulating. So if you are having regular bowel movements, have your own morning bowel movement and then do your coffee enema or do it later in
Kim Vopni (36:04.334)
Right. Right.
Kyah (36:13.358)
day whatever you like. If you're not, so say you're one of those people that goes once every two or three days, you should be doing something to get those bowel moving every single day. Whether or not it's taking some magnesium oxide, upping that fiber, but even like if you are not going, are, whatever you don't eliminate, you accumulate. And that is where our health issues really start to take off. And so, you know, for me, because my body doesn't quite, my Collins, you know,
really slow. I do an animate most mornings to help things go. And that to me is a better option than letting things go for a few weeks and not having a bowel movement.
Kim Vopni (36:55.906)
or having the majority of your colon removed and have a vac.
Kyah (36:58.862)
yeah. That.
Kim Vopni (37:01.922)
Yeah. you mentioned belly massage. if somebody, if you've hung up your bag, you're lying down, the fluid is coming in, should you do a belly massage at that same time or just kind of let things fill up, hold it there for the 20 minutes and then maybe do a belly massage at a different time or would that be a good time to do it?
Kyah (37:23.694)
Yeah, so if you ever watch my videos on Instagram, will see I am like, I'm all about the belly. Like I just believe that for some reason women became so shy about their bellies and having people touch and see their bellies and absolutely I'd be getting in there feeling your belly because it's actually giving you signs. You can feel the compaction. You can feel the bloating and feel the gas. And the more you touch your belly and you move things around, you're going to notice a bit of your routine.
Kim Vopni (37:29.242)
You
Kyah (37:53.65)
your normal and then you'll be able to tell like say if you go away for the weekend and you have it pooped feel your belly and you'll be like my gosh this is so hard I can feel the compaction I can feel the difference so I think it also is very distracting which is nice to give the belly a massage I'm always moving things around jiggling helping things move you know helping the the coffee to move around gas or stool I think is really helpful I love to have some essential oils do some breath when you take a nice big breath
in, you're making space, you're also taking your mind somewhere else and relaxing. I think the biggest place people go wrong with the coffee enemas or any type of enema or treatment in general is being so anxious about it that you can't let the benefits even happen. can, you know, like it's like, you just have to always tell people, like, you know, I know you're nervous, but why are here? You here for a reason.
Kim Vopni (38:42.116)
Right.
Kim Vopni (38:52.442)
Mm-hmm.
Kyah (38:53.424)
and do you want to stay where you are or do you want to something to change and you've come to us you've done your research you know most people you've done it you just have to trust your body and know that you know deep down your gut your gut instinct is like I think this is something that's gonna help me and then you just need to step in and just do it not think it just do it because you'll do it and then you'll be like my god that was so easy
Kim Vopni (39:16.868)
Yeah.
Kim Vopni (39:21.444)
Yeah, wasn't so bad. So you said holding it, how long does it take for the bag to empty into you?
Kyah (39:27.47)
So you can adjust the flow. So if you want to go really slow, you absolutely can. There's nothing wrong with that. If you just let it flow, I mean, maybe 30 seconds to a minute. If you stop, start, you could do it over a couple of minutes.
Kim Vopni (39:42.087)
really, that's
Kyah (39:43.532)
Yeah, it's not a lot of, it's really not a lot of solution and it might visually look like it, but you will, most people, especially as your colon starts to clear, you will barely feel it because really in a capacity of a two meter long bowel, it's nothing. And it's a lot being absorbed, you know, so yeah.
Kim Vopni (40:01.166)
Yeah, and then.
Yeah, and the process of holding it in, I mean, are there some people that have an immediate urge to go and it just feels overwhelming? I can see like a lot of flinching happening if people are holding it in.
Kyah (40:16.428)
Yeah, so these are great questions. So when you do your very first enema, we always recommend to do water because your body is going to feel, you're to feel stimulated straight away. And usually when people are starting enemas, they do have some level of compaction, whether they realize it or not. So usually we'll recommend some of them say, Hey, make your coffee, cool it down. But your very first one do a
water roundabout is like a trial run because that way if you have to get up after 30 seconds you haven't wasted the whole bag of coffee.
Kim Vopni (40:52.782)
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Kyah (40:53.782)
And then you sit on the toilet, you're going to have an awesome release and you'll be like, I get it. You're like, whoa, I feel better. And then we do the coffee and then you're going to have more success. Even if you can't hold the coffee for the full amount of time, you're still getting benefits. And it is not something that is going to just happen overnight. It's the higher levels of toxicity you have in the body, the more inflamed you are if you are someone who is so stressed out.
It's going to be really hard to hold that coffee enema for any period of time, but that's your starting point. You have to start somewhere.
Kim Vopni (41:31.193)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kyah (41:34.648)
So, and it just means that you're in the right place. And then the more that's coming out, and then obviously, you know, we take a really holistic approach. So we wanna be limiting the amount of toxicity and liver loaders that are coming in, you know, replenishing things like your good bacteria and, you know, electrolytes and making sure you're drinking clean water, things like that. Because at the end of the day, if you're still gonna have two glasses of wine every night and be super stressed, it's all gonna be hard to hold.
Kim Vopni (42:01.87)
Yeah. Yeah.
Kyah (42:04.592)
maybe that's your story and at least you're doing one good thing for the other.
Kim Vopni (42:08.28)
something. Yeah, that's amazing. This is so interesting. Where can people learn? First of all, we're going to put a discount code for the listeners to get 10 % off if this is something that they would like to try and that will be code vagina coach. So the link will be in the notes below, but where can people where can people come and use that code? Where can they find you and learn more?
Kyah (42:30.04)
Yeah, so you can find us over at happybumco.com or any of our Instagram or Facebook or anything handles are just at happybumco. We are global brand so you can you can find us everywhere. We've got warehouses in the US and Australia and the UK and soon to be Canada and and yeah, you can reach out to us. You'll get me or my team and we absolutely love what we do. We are so passionate. So if you have questions or if you are like
is this for me, just reach out. We're real people and we do this because we love it and we really believe that it can make a difference in everyone's health. And it's very cool to see the amount of traction it's getting in the people sharing their experiences because it works.
Kim Vopni (43:19.406)
Yeah, amazing. Thank you so much.
Kyah (43:23.128)
You're welcome.
